where pedophilia and hebephilia overlap

where pedophilia and hebephilia overlap

18 July 2019    
from pedophiles about pedophilia

brett daywalker 

 

Just felt I needed to clarify a couple things regarding pedophilia vs hebephilia and point out that, while they can be two distinct and different things, there is a bit of overlap between the two.

 

This is going to be a pretty short entry. Just felt I needed to clarify a couple things regarding pedophilia vs hebephilia and point out that, while they can be two distinct and different things, there is a bit of overlap between the two.

Pretty much anyone who knows me and who I'm also out to as a MAP knows I consider myself to be an exclusive pedophile. I'm not attracted to adults at all, and I tend to lose any attraction I have to a given kid when they become visibly pubescent. That said, my rough AOA tends to be 8-12. I do not consider myself a hebephile at all, but I often hear others when speaking of minor attraction say that pedophiles are generally attracted to 10 and under, whereas hebephiles are attracted to 11-14 or so. I've even heard this coming from professionals from time to time and from others who should be in the know. For my part, I honestly think that categorizing the two philias that way is a little off, and that it doesn't account for the bit of overlap there is between pedophilia and hebephilia.

Now I realize that all kids develop differently and that there are 11 year olds who look 14 and 14 year olds who look 11. However, if we're talking about an average kid, I'd say that the average 12 year old is usually still pretty attractive to me, while the average 13 year old is not anymore. That's because the average 12 year old still looks more like a little kid than a teenager. Sure their body may have started puberty but usually not in ways that are very visible just yet. That's why someone who is exclusively a pedophile may be attracted to the average 12 year old whereas someone who is an exclusive hebephile may be attracted to the exact same kid.

If I had to categorize pedophilia vs hebephilia via age range for the general public, instead of saying pedophilia is 10 and under whereas hebephilia is 11-whatever, I'd say pedophilia is 12 and under whereas hebephilia is 11 and over. There isn't a distinct line there because puberty isn't an abrupt event that happens overnight. As an exclusive pedophile, I've known exclusive hebephiles and it's not at all uncommon for us to agree on the attractiveness of given children who are at the upper end of my AOA and at the lower end of theirs.

It's not as if I, a pedophile, and a hebephile I might know, could both be acquainted with the same 11 year old kid, with me being attracted to that kid and the hebephile not, then the kid goes to bed one night on a Friday, and when they wake up on Saturday, the hebephile is now attracted to them and me not anymore. That's not how it works. Prepubescent kids don't encase themselves in a cocoon where they go through a rapid metamorphosis and come out the next day a young teen.

 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

mouse trapped: i was channel 4's masked pedophile

 

what if ordinary porn was illegal?

 

review: dream children

   

anonymous

In 2023, I appeared anonymously with a Channel 4 panel talking about my sexual attraction to children. It's clear we don't yet know how to have this conversation.

 

ethan edwards

Looking at CP is illegal and can incur stiff penalties, and I would urge everyone to not look at it, for that reason if nothing else. Setting that aside, I think looking at CP is morally questionable. It would certainly make me personally uncomfortable. (I have never seen any).

 

ethan edwards

The book is fiction, but we can ask whether such a positive outcome is realistic, given Oliver as he is presented. I have my doubts.

 
 
 
mouse trapped: i was channel 4's masked pedophile
anonymous

In 2023, I appeared anonymously with a Channel 4 panel talking about my sexual attraction to children. It's clear we don't yet know how to have this conversation.

 
 
 
what if ordinary porn was illegal?
ethan edwards

Looking at CP is illegal and can incur stiff penalties, and I would urge everyone to not look at it, for that reason if nothing else. Setting that aside, I think looking at CP is morally questionable. It would certainly make me personally uncomfortable. (I have never seen any).

 
 
 
review: dream children
ethan edwards

The book is fiction, but we can ask whether such a positive outcome is realistic, given Oliver as he is presented. I have my doubts.