thread: pedo-hunters

bly rede 

4 May 2019    
from twitter and bluesky threads


 

Vigilantes are much feared and hated by non-offending pedophiles as well as by offenders. Why?

Bly Rede is the co-director of Virtuous Pedophiles. Blog posts reflect his personal views, and are not statements from the organisation.

 

Here's my take on people who go online posing as underage people to 'expose pedos'.

1) You're probably actually exposing ephebophiles rather than pedophiles...

2) There's a case for saying this is entrapment in some jurisdictions.

3) That said, >


> I too am worried about anyone who talks sexually online or arranges to meet for sexual purposes a person they believe to be underage. Everyone should be concerned.

4) It is an offence in England, at least, to do either of the above so reporting a person who does those things >


> seems legit to me, even where the 'victim' is fictional. There is good reason to suppose a fictional victim might otherwise have been a real one, and I believe in prevention.

5) By far the best way of responding when a person sexually messages someone they believe to be >


> seems legit to me, even where the 'victim' is fictional. There is good reason to suppose a fictional victim might otherwise have been a real one, and I believe in prevention.

5) By far the best way of responding when a person sexually messages someone they believe to be >


> underage, is to get that person toward support, instead of getting them to the point where they commit an offence. Far less damage that way, if they can be helped.

6) Admittedly, not everyone can be helped and someone who hasn't (yet) offended can't be >


> judicially compelled to engage with prevention efforts, or "get help" as the antis say. I do understand why the pedo-hunters feel they have to get to the point of an actual offence being committed so the police can arrest, or a potential offender may simply disappear into the >


> night (perhaps to victimise an actual child). All the same I think there should be a focus on finding ways to intervene at this stage rather than, in effect, commissioning an offence.

7) If someone goes ahead and arranges to meet or sends sexual messages then the only >


> reason for taking video is as documentation for police eyes only. I cannot think of any reasonable justification for live streaming or making the video public. You risk harming some entirely innocent party or of exposing an offender to highly unpredictable risks (including >


> suicide and assault by third parties). Not only that you're taking other risks with the lives of their family, their friends, their children or young relatives and so on. Not to mention effects on the investigation and any potential trial. 'Hunters' cannot ever control for >


> these risks in a way that makes public sharing wise or ethical.

8) Finally, sexual abuse, grooming and exploitation as they happen in the real world are not entertainment, and they're not a fair or moral way to get clicks and status. If you want to help, support charities >


> that engage with victims of CSA and/or with offenders (like @CirclesUk) or, if your heart is set on online detection work, then reach potential offenders and get them engaged with support from @virpeds or professionals. THAT would be a contribution, and it would be BRAVE. ||


 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

a short bright elucidation

 

in which leonard processes his feelings

 

thread: the narrative of situational offenders

   

bly rede

A review of A Long Dark Shadow: Minor Attracted People and Their Pursuit of Dignity by Allyn Walker

 

leonard johnston

2 of 4: I was skeptical about the claims of those saying they'd been "silenced". And then it happened to me.

 

bly rede

Are sexual offenders against children really divided neatly into 'pedophilic' and 'situational'?

 
 
 
a short bright elucidation
bly rede

A review of A Long Dark Shadow: Minor Attracted People and Their Pursuit of Dignity by Allyn Walker

 
 
 
in which leonard processes his feelings
leonard johnston

2 of 4: I was skeptical about the claims of those saying they'd been "silenced". And then it happened to me.

 
 
 
thread: the narrative of situational offenders
bly rede

Are sexual offenders against children really divided neatly into 'pedophilic' and 'situational'?